the green channel's The alaska experiment

[Kingoftheflock]

well yea but seriously it would be a wild goose chase. it would be like afghanistan all over again, running around with a thousand UN restrictions choking our operations chasing down rats that live in mountains. we've been there since i was 9, and its hurt the US more than helped. we kill the leaders of the taliban and al queda, and they come back stronger every time. and now that the military has poured so much time and money and lives into the operation, they are looking for the end of the string and find that its frayed into a thousand pieces. so if it comes to that..well i dont think it would end very well or at all.

[coon4492]

well part of the reason were doing so bad in afghanistan is because of Iraq. We pretty much won that war and were slowly withdrawing but afghanistan has gotten worse the talibans coming back and we need more troops. The surge bush used in Iraq worked very well all those additional troops did help stabalize the country more. People didn't want bush to deploy more troops but he did and it worked. Some people think afghanistans going to be more like vietnam additional troops won't help but I think they're wrong. It's a different enemy in a different time. Most muslims don't even support Al Qadea as much as people think and the organization is really failing and desperate. more troops sent in would destroy the taliban with the successes we had in the earlier strikes on afghanistan and al qadea would weaken even more. Obama needs to send a larger military force in afghanistan so we can crush the taliban.

[Kingoftheflock]

no they arent desperate. do you know how many muslim extremists exist in the world today? most of them are with the taliban or someone other extremist group. the taliban and al queda get alot of money from the opium and heroin trade trafficked from the US and europe for the millions of addicts. they are fighters that have been hardened by decades of conflict from the Soviets to the US. we arent going to find victory in iraq or afghanistan. alexander the great failed, Great britian failed, the soviets failed, and the US will fail. they wont back down for anything.

[coon4492]

not to long ago when obama came to office bin laden released a new message that was much different than his older ones. He was trying to negotiate with america which was really werid. Basically he said he would call off the Jihad on America if we broke off relations with israel. Why would he be barganing with us if he could win the war? They tried to cut a deal at the begining of the war in afghanistan when they were losing horribly and running for pakistan. Infact we almost permanently destroyed bin laden and the taliban at that time. The taliban got stronger and came back to afghanistan but they have lost their most important recruiting tools the war in iraq and george bush. The iraq wars winding down and bush is out of office now so they can't find good ways to recruit muslims to al qaeda like they use to. We can now focus a larger military force into afghanistan to crush them like we did before. If they head for pakistan then we may have to invade I think even liberal Obama said that might have to be an option.

[dixieangler]

well yea but seriously it would be a wild goose chase. it would be like afghanistan all over again, running around with a thousand UN restrictions choking our operations chasing down rats that live in mountains. we've been there since i was 9, and its hurt the US more than helped. we kill the leaders of the taliban and al queda, and they come back stronger every time.

Whoever said it would be easy? Didn't George W. Bush after 9/11 say this would be a long hard fought international guerrilla type war? But what is the alternative for not fighting? The loss of freedom and liberty with world domination by fascist Muslims? We have no alternative. The terrorists leave us no alternative. Their goal is clear. Kill all those that do not follow their perverted ideology and dominate the world with that perverted ideology. Our backs are against the wall. Either stand and fight or die.

If they head for pakistan then we may have to invade I think even liberal Obama said that might have to be an option.

Sorry Joe but Al Qaeda is already in Pakistan along with their allies the Taliban in the mountains of Pakistan. In no way will we invade Pakistan. It is a nuclear armed nation with the seventh largest army in world. They will have to defeat Al Qaeda and the Taliban on their own soil. Unless that happens, Al Qaeda and the Taliban will continue to launch attacks into Afghanistan and throughout the world from their Pakistan mountain bases.

[dixieangler]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html

In the Armed Forces EXCEPT the National Guard (Army or Air)

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

This just burns the top of my head off. An oath is law and those that take an oath should be held to that oath no matter what their convictions or they should never have taken that oath. I will say no more.

[Kingoftheflock]

thats disgusting...its really sad to see people not even begin to understand that oath. your job as a soldier is to defend the constitution, and take orders only after checking it doesnt violate the first step. when the time comes, do you think those soldiers that took that oath will even remember it? i hope so...