Bottle-cans, they are giving us canteens!

[LDS]

Finally, I have my revenge against the yuppie fittness freaks that drive the price of aluminum water bottles over the $10 mark!!!

Miller brewing is promoting a new one pint aluminum can with a screw top wide mouth lid.

On trial run in the south and midwest. (apparently they are punishing the east and west coasts) Comes as a 9 pack.

I may be forced to replace some of my recycled coke bottles with these. You can even boil the muddy creek water in them.

I an not a beer drinker but I shall force myself to empty one or two of these and preform a field test to detirmine if these items are good enough to grace our list of scavenged free camping gear.

[dixieangler]

You can even boil the muddy creek water in them.

Yeah but I wouldn't want to use aluminum as a long term container to boil water in. In a pinch for several times but probably not more. I do know that polished aluminum canteens are fine to use for a liquid container (the US Army used them as GI canteens for many years and through WWI & WWII & Korea with no ill effects on the troops) and so is aluminum soft drink cans that are not only polished but have a factory coating on the inside. I would have a problem with rough unpolished aluminum for drinking though. I would also be wary that the aluminum will eventually leach off into the water (liquid) from the heat (basically become soft) of boiling. But the Army used stainless steel canteen cooking cups, not their aluminum canteens for boiling or cooking. There are probably aluminum pots, pans, and canteen cups on the market to be used for cooking but I would not want to use them, at least not long term.

I do have a problem with plastic as a liquid container even though the US Army from Vietnam onward adopted the plastic canteen. I do have one of these plastic canteens but the plastic taste makes any liquid coming from it, hard for me to swallow or keep down. Hotter climates (high temperatures) do make plastic soft. That plastic has to be leaching off into liquid whether it contains BPA (Bisphenol A) or not. I do believe that the military plastic canteen has been researched on BPA and/or other plastic hazards and doubt very seriously that it has any plastic hazards since it continues to be issued to US troops (unless they want to overload the VA hospitals). Unfortunately, limited amounts of BPA seem to be in just about any food or drink container currently so there is no getting away from it no matter what product for the most part for the time being. There is obviously reason for concern if many US states are now considering a ban on it. I have been seeing more products now being made with the "BPA Free" labels on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A

I have about two aluminum canteens, two stainless steel water bottles, and one plastic canteen. I use the stainless steel bottles more than any of the canteens as I keep them in the truck but I also keep an aluminum canteen in the truck also for belt carry.

[LDS]

My God we're all going to die!!!

Half the food I stuffed into my mouth for my first 20 years was cooked in cheap aluminum pots and pans bought from Woolworths. I still have a couple of well scoured aluminum pots in the cupboard.

Remember back when we were in grade school and the asbestos heat wrap on the exposed pipes used to fall down on us every time the pipes rattled.

And I figure I have cast about 500,000 lead bullets, not always in the best of ventalation situations.

And I have probably eaten twice my weight in chemical preservitives just in the bologna sandwiches I have consumed in the past 60 years.

If I had not done all that crap I might have lived to be well over 200!! Which would not have been bad if I could have started 200 years ago and lived until now instead of having to tack the extra years to our present situation. So far my doctor seems more concerned with my injestion of colesterol and stress induced blood preasure elivation than plastic and aluminum molocules.

I went out and bought the 9 pack. ( I am 60, grizzled and gray, and the teeny bopper chick still carded me!) The cans are a pretty blue color and besides having great taste and being less filling the metal is about twice as thick as a normal can. The screw off cap is also extra large, like the old three liter big mouth coke bottles. On the down side, there is nowhere to tie off a lanyard for a belt loop.

These things should definately be placed in our "Use it if you find it in a ditch" list along with the empty bic lighters, coffee cans and braided plastic bag ropes.

I noticed that there were several types of energy drink in heavy cans with screw lids. They were a full quart! Just imagine consuming a quart of ginsing flavored caffine. Makes me gag just thinking about it!

I also bought milk. God only knows what is in that! Anyway, as I shopped I realized that a quart of milk costs more than a quart of beer.

[dixieangler]

My God we're all going to die!!!

Half the food I stuffed into my mouth for my first 20 years was cooked in cheap aluminum pots and pans bought from Woolworths. I still have a couple of well scoured aluminum pots in the cupboard.

Remember back when we were in grade school and the asbestos heat wrap on the exposed pipes used to fall down on us every time the pipes rattled.

LOL Everybody dies but why shorten your life if you know better now? We did not know of many hazards from materials back then. Granted some are not as severe as others and probably don't rate bothering over. But if I know better and use it, then I got no one else to blame but myself if I get sick from it. If I don't know about it, then it doesn't matter anyway. Ignorance is bliss. But I ought to at least avoid what I know I shouldn't use when I can.

[dixieangler]

Trash and junk is all over that folks dump. When I go back in the woods I see a lot of it. Folks do that so they don't have to use the gas, drive down to the dump across the county, or pay dump fees. The county has a law against dumping and a steep fine if anyone is caught. I go back there all the time and never see anyone dumping, just what they have dumped. You name it, they dump it. From washers, driers, to the kitchen sink, literally. I did score a large heavy nylon rope somebody dumped so I got a lot of free nylon strands for cords and tying. lol Most of the junk is useless but once in a while there is something that can be recycled to something else to use. I would just hate to see the woodland "preserve" for hikers, bikers, and four wheelers turned into a dump and if they keep it up, it might be. There is a firearms ordinance there so no one is suppose to be shooting back there. Might hit some hiker, biker, or four wheeler. I hear them shooting quite a bit when I am back there. They have security guards roaming the back roads in their cruisers. I suppose they might catch some dumpers once in a while. I talked to a guard one day and he was looking for this one fellow riding around shooting armadillos with a .22. I saw the guy stop, get out, and shoot one day but he jumps right back in and takes off so the guard can't get him. The guard warned me of a Volkswagon size Black Bear on that side he had seen. I couldn't believe it. Bears here don't get very big living off the land unless he is living off some human handouts somewhere which would make him even more dangerous. Our bears are little. They are big enough not to mess with but not very large in size. I now go to the other side of the preserve anyway just in case. lol